User talk:Kj1595

Seal / Coat of arms

Hello again! I recently found a really interesting seal/coat of arms. Its in the Vatican's archives. Its from 1593 "letters of the elders of albania" it also has "Regni" in it. Its inscription says "sigill Regni Macedoniae et Albaniae" Its all on the bottom of the page here [1] and then another link here [2] Then I found another interesting coat of arms. Its for the Albanese in Sicilly- [3] Have a great day thank you again! Arberian2444 (talk) 21:25, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

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June 2024

Honours is the correct spelling of the word to use with regards to football related articles. Please reference Wikiproject Football before making unconstructive edits again. You can reference the various football templates here: Club, Player, and National team. Rupert1904 (talk) 12:16, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

No, it's not. That's the british version of the spelling. And as such, it's not obligatory to be used in other non-british related articles. See the article Chicago Fire FC as an example. Kj1595 (talk) 16:33, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

American clubs are the only ones using American English spelling. Please abide by the Wikiproject templates and stop your vandalism. Rupert1904 (talk) 16:40, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

A standard exists where the non-british version of the word has been used in other non-british related football articles. Kj1595 (talk) 16:42, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

Stop your repeated unconstructive edits. You are in the realm of vandalism now and are doing it on purpose. The standard is using British spelling of honours for all players and clubs that aren't American. As I have already shown you through Wikiproject Football but you refuse to acknowledge this. You are a vandal. Rupert1904 (talk) 16:48, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

Again, we have an established example of a football club using the Honors version of the word. My revision follows previous precedent. Kj1595 (talk) 16:51, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

I have linked above to the wiki templates to to use for all clubs. Every player and club uses British English except Americans. They are the exception not the rule. Rupert1904 (talk) 16:53, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

It doesn't matter. An example has been established. It's not obligatory to use the british version of the word. Kj1595 (talk) 16:55, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

It does matter. British English is the standard we use for football articles. Just like with the spelling, it's the same for dates. Please review the Wikiproject templates and talk section before vandalizing articles again. Rupert1904 (talk) 17:03, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

There cannot be a standard when I just showed you an example of an American soccer club using the Honors version of the word. So, a new precedent has been created. American english is by far the most widely used dialect of english found throughout english Wikipedia. We are not going to be forced to read british spellings of words because it hurts your feelings. Kj1595 (talk) 17:07, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

No need for the personal attacks.

@GiantSnowman, @Robby.is.on, @MatsLP, anything you can add here about this disagreement on spelling? Thanks. Rupert1904 (talk) 17:15, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

A british user giving input is automatic bias. They would obviously opt for the british spelling of the word. A simple word counter search in Wikipedia reveals the following results: Honor = 255,764 uses; Honour = 152,017 uses. Pretty much every single Albania related article here uses the American version of the word. Kj1595 (talk) 17:34, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

I would use the British spelling. GiantSnowman 18:32, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

See MOS:RETAIN which states: "When an English variety's consistent usage has been established in an article, maintain it in the absence of consensus to the contrary. With few exceptions (e.g., when a topic has strong national ties or the change reduces ambiguity), there is no valid reason for changing from one acceptable option to another." I think that's all there is to say? Robby.is.on (talk) 18:38, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

Read all my arguments above. A precedent has been set to use the word as such > Honors. The usage of the British version is not as common throughout Wikipedia when compared to the American one. All Albania related articles use the American version of the word. History, politics, literature.. you name it. Why should sports be any different? Kj1595 (talk) 18:47, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

I saw those assertions. All Albania related articles use the American version of the word. That assertion does match what I've seen.

At any rate, MOS:TIES applies to territories where English is the dominant language, like the United States, the United Kingdom, Nigeria, etc. Albania is not one of them. Robby.is.on (talk) 23:47, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

You are making my point. Dialectal words like 'honour' and 'colour' are confined mainly within the territories of the UK. As such, in their form they apply specifically to British related articles. American english, however, is the globally accepted model dialect, in society and here in Wikipedia, as presented by the counter stats on the word usage. The issue is really with the Wikiproject Football page which seems to have been influenced in part by British users' input who were likely more involved in its drafting. Football is the main sport in the UK so the fanbase is large and more passionate on this specific topic. In Albania's case, the english spoken and written in the country is without a doubt the American english model. In fact, this applies to all European non-english speaking countries. Nowhere in Europe (outside UK) is the British dialect written/spoken. Kj1595 (talk) 06:30, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

That's just a wildly inaccurate claim. British English is taught and used in Europe as well as Commonwealth countries. And just so you're aware, I'm American, and still think the British English spelling should be used here for football articles and has been the standard until you started changing Albanian club articles. Rupert1904 (talk) 08:07, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

As an 'American', you seem to be a little too involved in European sports. Even going out of your way to undo edits that favor a british point of view. Sorry to bring about my suspicion here, Rupert (a British name, btw), but that surely isn't typical behavior of an American or an expact. Maybe you are an isolated case. Kj1595 (talk) 09:26, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

American english, however, is the globally accepted model dialect, in society and here in Wikipedia and In fact, this applies to all European non-english speaking countries. Nowhere in Europe (outside UK) is the British dialect written/spoken. Those are wild claims. I studied English at a university in Germany with hundreds of people studying to become teachers. Both varieties – and other varieties – were widespread.

Another case in point: The European Commission's style guide states:

The language used in English texts should be understandable to speakers of Irish/British English (defined in the introduction to this guide as the shared standard usage of Ireland and the United Kingdom). As a general rule, Irish/British English should be preferred, and Americanisms that are liable not to be understood by speakers of Irish/British English should be avoided. However, bearing in mind that a considerable proportion of the target readership may be made up of non-native speakers, very colloquial Irish/British usage should also be avoided.

And even if American spelling were slightly more widespread British English remains an "acceptable option" which means "there is no valid reason for changing" per MOS:RETAIN. Robby.is.on (talk) 08:49, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

So, both Ruppert and Robby.is.on use the 'wild' terminology in their responses. Are they the same person? Given their timely consecutive responses? I am not going to speculate here. Nevertheless, a precedent has been set to use the word Honors in a football related article and there is no written rule which states it should only be used in American soccer teams. Honour is clearly a British dialectal word, used predominantly within the UK. The rest of the world, or the majority of it, use the Honor version, without the frenchy borrowed 'u' added, in every article here. Kj1595 (talk) 09:33, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Are they the same person? Get a grip, will you? Honour is clearly a British dialectal word, used predominantly within the UK. And India and Pakistan and New Zealand and Australia and Canada and Ireland and Jamaica, … Are you trolling? Robby.is.on (talk) 09:39, 21 June 2024 (UTC)