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Notice of edit warring noticeboard discussion

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. The thread is Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring#User:Fantastic_Mr._Fox reported by User:Austronesier (Result: ). Thank you. Austronesier (talk) 11:06, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

April 2024

I apologise in advance for the big wall of text. Feel free to ask for questions. And please, as suggested in my request - uninvolved admin only, please. Fantastic Mr. Fox (talk) 15:32, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! I'm replying as we were on good terms previously and your talk page happened to stay on my watchlist. First, Bbb23 is not a WP:CheckUser, and thus very likely hasn't been checking your IP. Second, being WP:INVOLVED is about the dispute itself (in this case, having participated in the edit war), and discussing administrative action isn't considered involvement as far as I know. Finally, I advise you to use less vehement language when requesting an unblock request — even if you do not trust the admin at all, it is best to calmly ask for another admin to review the situation, and casting aspersions is rarely helpful.
I'll refrain from commenting on the merits of the block itself or on Bbb23's previous behavior, and leave that for an actual admin reviewing the block request, as I am just here to give you hopefully helpful advice on the situation. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 15:40, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate the advice. I'm more against the block not because it is to do with edit warring - as stated, i potentially (A piece of advice on how to deal with future blatent refusals to communicate is welcome) made an error trying to revert the (Presumably new, maybe something else) editors on that page. I much prefer something far more constructive, for example, what you have written in regards to this unblock request, if I make such errors, because I can give reasons why or make adjustments accordingly. The issue here is Bbb23, unlike yourself, has not ever given me advice, and has instead just punished me here in response to me stating he was WP:HOUNDING me, based off him having a commentary on anything I do considered out of the norm on Wikipedia. His block notice of what I understand as 'Blocked because he didn't break down and confess like a 5 year old , and I will probably block him again. Also said I did something, and WP:IDONTLIKEIT' screams bad faith and i'm not working on a encyclopedia, not matter how much I want to, with a hawk ready to pounce at a moments notice on me. I am perfectly fine with literally any other admin reviewing this, but I am tempted today to ask for interaction ban between me an Bbb23. I don't dislike him, but he seems to dislike me, and he has a hammer. Fantastic Mr. Fox (talk) 16:38, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I genuinely hope you can have another administrator review the situation. Again, whether you are in the right or not regarding this situation, I suggest you remember Wikipedia:Being right isn't enough, and a factual statement of what happened and why you believe it to be out of bounds will always be better than flowery metaphors.
From what I understand, Bbb23 seems to have gone for a block because of your insistence that [your] edit-warring was exempt under 3RRNO. That doesn't seem like bad faith, but more like a block because of your misunderstanding of what was allowed by policy, with the block (rather than warning) being because you still believed you were allowed to do it. Now that you have a better understanding (as you stated above) of when the policy properly applies, I think the block has done what it needed to do, and an unblock would be welcome in my opinion. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 17:20, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You should stop repeating the aspersions against Bbb23 just for using admistrative tools (≠ "hammer") they have been entrusted with by the community. Most other admins would have done exactly the same (if fact we expect them to do so when facing blatant policy violations), and I doubt that the community will consider this 24h-block a bad block. But feel free to take your issues to WP:AARV when the block expires (unless another admin might consider to indef you in the meantime for casting aspersions against an uninvolved admin just because they happened to be the one to do what is appropriate). –Austronesier (talk) 17:29, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You have restored[1] the version by Rhemaiza that you have reverted countless times less than 48h ago with unstoppable verve. Why? I have a guess, but I'd prefer to hear from you. –Austronesier (talk) 15:48, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I was only reverting to previous version because I wanted to understand his sourcing he gave it. Fantastic Mr. Fox (talk) 17:53, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 1 week for edit warring, as you did at Rasa Sayang. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions.

During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please review Wikipedia's guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text to the bottom of your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. Bbb23 (talk) 17:22, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

So what kind of edit warring? Are you assuming I reverted to his edit for bad faith reasons? I wanted to hear his sourcing, and he gave one in his last edit. I'm not editing this site for a while, if on this account again, if your wondering what I want to do. Bbb23 care to explain? I'm tired. Fantastic Mr. Fox (talk) 17:57, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who accepted the request.

Fantastic Mr. Fox (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I reverted to his (the other editor in the dispute) edit since he gave an explanation, and I won't be editing for a long time, so I decided to diffuse the dispute by myself, since only I opposed it. Please unblock so I can rest in peace. Fantastic Mr. Fox (talk) 18:04, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Accept reason:

You're correct. I mistakenly thought you had restored the article to your version. My apologies. Bbb23 (talk) 18:10, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

	The Barnstar of Good Humor
	Your remark about “political yu-gi-oh” at ANI was very funny Dronebogus (talk) 13:37, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers @Dronebogus! Glad I brightened your day. Fantastic Mr. Fox (talk) 15:31, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

May 2024

Hello. Regarding the recent revert you made to Gig Young: you may already know about them, but you might find Wikipedia:Template index/User talk namespace useful. After a revert, these can be placed on the user's talk page to let them know you considered their edit inappropriate, and also direct new users towards the sandbox. They can also be used to give a stern warning to a vandal when they've been previously warned. Thank you. DB1729^talk 14:13, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Will do, cheers for advice going forward. Although I think we can agree that particular user may not have been inclined to stick around too long. Fantastic Mr. Fox (talk) 14:16, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

CT the Balkans or Eastern Europe

You have recently made edits related to the Balkans or Eastern Europe. This is a standard message to inform you that the Balkans or Eastern Europe is a designated contentious topic. This message does not imply that there are any issues with your editing. For more information about the contentious topics system, please see Wikipedia:Contentious topics. TylerBurden (talk) 20:13, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am aware, but thank you. Fantastic Mr. Fox (talk) 20:18, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oh sorry I didn't notice your revert on Russian invasion of Ukraine. Why are we mentioning Russian material losses only instead of both? It's not like the Frontline is moving much either. Fantastic Mr. Fox (talk) 20:22, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Because the section title is meant to reflect the content within it, how many Ukrainian naval vessels and military plane losses do you see within it? Feel free to add them if you have the sources to back it up. TylerBurden (talk) 20:24, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your revisions dont make sense.

Explain how an carpet museum that is in Shushi (Karabakh) has no relevance to the topic, yet an carpet museum in Baku, which is far away from karabakh has relevance? Ofcourse not, I dont get what you are on. Also, how is the azeri translation in Caucasian dragon carpets relevant? What does it add? Why dont you ask the one who added something to make a case, instead of the one who reverts it? 2003:EA:4F4F:C28E:A992:F8E9:EA7:33CF (talk) 12:36, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have restored the last stable version at Caucasian dragon carpets apon further investigation. You tripped a edit filter that showed up on 'likely problematic edits', hence why I reverted you initially.

As for the Shushi Carpet Museum, it is highly discouraged to link things such as museums on articles, as it can be seen as WP:PROMOTION. Fantastic Mr. Fox (talk) 12:40, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Why didnt you delete the Azerbaijani carpet museum link then? Why just this museum? Are you biased or something? 2003:EA:4F4F:C28E:A992:F8E9:EA7:33CF (talk) 12:41, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That shouldn't be there either, and has been removed. Fantastic Mr. Fox (talk) 12:43, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ig, If thats so just delete the unreliable links and leave the good sources in 2003:EA:4F4F:C28E:A992:F8E9:EA7:33CF (talk) 12:44, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

For Caucasian dragon carpets ofcourse 2003:EA:4F4F:C28E:A992:F8E9:EA7:33CF (talk) 12:44, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Why have you now deleted all sourced information that I have added to Caucasian dragon carpets and the dragon carpet images, although I gave reliable sources for what I stated? 2003:EA:4F4F:C28E:A992:F8E9:EA7:33CF (talk) 12:41, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Göycen obviously takes issue with edits you have made, so I advise you both go to the Caucasian dragon carpets talk page and discuss there, seeking dispute resolution if necessary. I have advised him as well to do so. Fantastic Mr. Fox (talk) 12:47, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I dont know how to make a talk page start on a talk page that doesnt have previous talks on it, pls open one so I can write on it. 2003:EA:4F4F:C28E:A992:F8E9:EA7:33CF (talk) 12:48, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Will do. Fantastic Mr. Fox (talk) 12:50, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dear@Fantastic Mr. Fox, i gave the bold evidence about the issue. The owner of ip adress has a problematic history with this type of pages and still could not afford a username to talk things fruitfully. Göycen (talk) 12:55, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You both edit warred. I hope you will both discuss in good faith on the talk page. Fantastic Mr. Fox (talk) 13:03, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion now opened. Fantastic Mr. Fox (talk) 13:00, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Quote formatting

Might I persuade you to put {{tq2|1=quote contents here}} around the IP quote that you put at ANI? It would make things way clearer (at least visually), and hopefully would remove the [reply] button (which is what is making things confusing). – 2804:F14:8086:B701:80CC:FCD6:43E3:855B (talk) 19:44, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Will do, I wasn't aware of how quotes worked previously. Thank you. Fantastic Mr. Fox (talk) 19:45, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Disclaimer: I've never used block quotes before, only non block quotes (i.e. {{tq}}), which make the text green, but this time I'm guessing block quotes would work better - usually I just quote a part of a comment too, so I don't even add their signature, just a link... anyways tangent - looks good, thank you. – 2804:F14:8086:B701:80CC:FCD6:43E3:855B (talk) 19:49, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]