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DYK nomination of Monument to Women Memorial Garden

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Review my DYK nomination

Any chance you could review my DYK nomination: Template:Did you know nominations/Paul Dibb? — አቤል ዳዊት?(Janweh64) (talk) 10:40, 18 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Bold markup consensus

How does it neeed consensus? It doesn't change the look. Under WP:BADHEAD it states it's not good to use as a "header". And also it is not good for screenreader users. --Jennica / talk 20:32, 26 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Jennica: I'm not sure why a semicolon is used, but I think it's best to have consistency in these pages to avoid confusing new users. Changing a couple page's formatting won't stop new pages from having the old formatting. Getting a talk page consensus will help resolve potential edit wars. FallingGravity 21:32, 26 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Where would I get consensus? At the "Current events" talk page? --Jennica / talk 21:34, 26 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Jennica: Yeah, probably on the Portal talk:Current events page. Combing through the archives, I see it's been discussed before, but there was no real discussion or proposal. You might even want to start a WP:RfC to get more opinions. FallingGravity 22:30, 26 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Em listed at Redirects for discussion

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DYK for Charles Ellis Johnson

On 30 January 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Charles Ellis Johnson, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Mormon photographer Charles Ellis Johnson made artistic nudes and risqué stereoviews (example pictured)? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Charles Ellis Johnson. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Charles Ellis Johnson), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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DYK nomination of Monument to Women Memorial Garden

Hello! Your submission of Monument to Women Memorial Garden at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! ~ Rob13Talk 11:58, 2 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Milo Yiannopoulos

Re your recent reversion... First it violates 1RR which proscribes re-adding any material that is challenged by reversion w/o talk page consensus. Secondly while some sources may be using that descriptor, the vast majority are not. I am not going to join this rather early edit war but I would gently encourage you to self-revert and take this to the article talk page. Best regards... -Ad Orientem (talk) 23:02, 3 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Is Disrupt J20 "anti-fascist"?

I added this category because it says on its website: "We support the right of all attendees to feel safe and empowered while expressing their opposition to the Trump regime and the fascism it represents." Thus, I thought Category:Anti-fascism in the United States would be appropriate. The article also says they're allied with the DC Antifascist Coalition. FallingGravity 06:49, 4 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for replying, @FallingGravity:. I have no horse in the race. If the category exists as a place for all organizations that are self-described using this moniker, then it seems fine. The only issue that others might raise is a BLP/NPOV issue, that as the J20 group existed, at least to start, with the singular purpose of resisting one individual, it is hard escape the contention that labeling itself anti-f is to equate the person/target they are resisting with the f label—so that our unfiltered reporting of their self-ascription then becomes WP's joining in their equating target with label. But if this is how it is done—if we simply categorize groups based on their self-ascriptions—then I can see how there might be emotional objections, but not prevailing, policy-based objections. As for the substance of the matter, there has been editorializing in decent places like the Times and Washpo that argue for the careful use of the term f—that if everyone with whom we disagree is a f, then the word loses its meaning. I am sympathetic to this argument, having had family flee from actual national socialist and fascist (as well as communist) regimes in the past. And, for that matter, I have had family fight on the sides of causes that while they might not be f, they were certainly authoritarian. All this is too say that words have meanings, and it is important to promote their deeper understanding and proper use. With regard, Le Prof 73.210.155.96 (talk) 21:48, 4 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Would also encourage you, with your thoughtfulness, to consider contributing to the substance of the article. In particular, as I noted in an expand section tag, the article is particularly weak on (i) what they actually did/accomplished on the 20th, and (ii) what they have done since, and intend as their future course. I will look in, especially to add news from major venues regarding the outcome of any trials or investigations, but my time, and expertise/interest on this is limited. Just trying to add what I can, to the things I read. Cheers. Le Prof 73.210.155.96 (talk) 21:52, 4 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
And 1,7-octadiene? mdr, you do indeed have broad interests as well. Will probably have a look there. Cheers. Le Prof 73.210.155.96 (talk) 21:56, 4 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Based on what I'm reading above, I don't think the category can remain. We need independent reliable sources using this descriptor. What we have at the moment is a self description that is describing President Trump as representing fascism. That's not enough for us. And we need to be very careful about potentially implying that Trump as a fascist in wiki-voice without RS sources. There may in fact be RS sources that are using that descriptor for this group, but until they are found I'm not comfortable with it. I suggest it be removed for now. I also want to be clear that there is no question here of bad faith editing. -Ad Orientem (talk) 22:07, 4 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
As I said, @Ad Orientem: no understanding of the policies and guidelines that apply, and so no opinion. Please, you and FG sort this, and one of you make the edit, of need be. Meanwhile, category is invisible to the reader, so no negative impact. Thanks. Le Prof 73.210.155.96 (talk) 22:36, 4 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
This is not a super huge issue. I was asked for my opinion and I have given it. If FG disagrees and someone wants to make an issue of it we can open a discussion on the talk page. -Ad Orientem (talk) 23:38, 4 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

New Page Review - newsletter No.2

Hello FallingGravity,
A HUGE backlog

We now have 809 New Page Reviewers!
Most of us requested the user right at PERM, expressing a wish to be able to do something about the huge backlog, but the chart on the right does not demonstrate any changes to the pre-user-right levels of October.

Hitting 17,000 soon

The backlog is still steadily growing at a rate of 150 a day or 4,650 a month. Only 20 reviews a day by each reviewer over the next few days would bring the backlog down to a managable level and the daily input can then be processed by each reviewer doing only 2 or 3 reviews a day - that's about 5 minutes work!
It didn't work in time to relax for the Xmas/New Year holidays. Let's see if we can achieve our goal before Easter, otherwise by Thanksgiving it will be closer to 70,000.

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Abuse

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New Page Review - newsletter No.3

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DYK for Monument to Women Memorial Garden

On 8 March 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Monument to Women Memorial Garden, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Barbara B. Smith created the Monument to Women Memorial Garden to defend traditional women's values from the perceived threat of the Equal Rights Amendment? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Monument to Women Memorial Garden. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Monument to Women Memorial Garden), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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DYK for Lavender (BadBadNotGood song)

On 11 April 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Lavender (BadBadNotGood song), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that President Donald Trump criticized Snoop Dogg's remix music video of "Lavender" for having a scene in which Snoop fires a flag gun at a clown parody version of Trump? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Lavender (BadBadNotGood song). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Lavender (BadBadNotGood song)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Princess Bride

Wikipedia is not The Princess Bride

"Neutral"?

"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

Inigo Montoya in The Princess Bride (1987)[1]

See NPOV means neutral editors, not neutral content. Have fun. -- BullRangifer (talk) 07:11, 18 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Lol, thanks. FallingGravity 07:20, 18 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of 2017 Berkeley protests for deletion

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New Page Review - Newsletter No.4

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WP:LEAD at Murder of Seth Rich

Thank you for your contributions at Murder of Seth Rich.

But please read WP:LEAD.

Please note this [1] is inappropriate.

Stuff in lede MUST be in body text first.

Please read the edit-notice at Murder of Seth Rich.

Thank you ! Sagecandor (talk) 16:37, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Wat

seems like you didn't read the page well enough? Lil Johnny (talk) (contribs) 00:31, 1 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:MormonLeaks/GA1

I've copyedited and updated the article, the logo was changed, and all issues addressed. Do you think maybe possibly you could have another look at Talk:MormonLeaks/GA1, since that was the only issue? Sagecandor (talk) 00:10, 17 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

My reply is in Talk:MormonLeaks. FallingGravity 01:16, 18 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the helpful suggestions ! Sagecandor (talk) 03:06, 18 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Dream Mine

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Killing of Nabra Hassanen

Hi FallingGravity - thanks for your great edit on Killing of Nabra Hassanen. I see you marked it as minor, if that was intentional you might want to have a look at WP:MINOR. Cheers AntiVan (talk) 23:22, 4 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently the script I sometimes use marks some of my edits as minor. I'll watch out next time. FallingGravity 22:44, 8 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Praying (song)

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Request for comment here

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Your opinion/s would be welcome here

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If you continue to violate WP:OWN and make unilaterally deletion without discussion or consensus, I will refer you to AN/I.--Certified Gangsta (talk) 20:16, 30 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

If you seriously think an opinion article in the New York Post is a reliable source for a WP:BLP, then I have some news for you. FallingGravity 20:23, 30 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Jewish studies scholars

Regarding your recent revert, please present your reasons for keeping this subsection here. Thanks in advance! --Wiking (talk) 20:06, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Backlog update:

  • The new page backlog is currently at 12713 pages. Please consider reviewing even just a few pages each day! If everyone helps out, it will really put a dent in the backlog.
  • Currently the backlog stretches back to March and some pages in the backlog have passed the 90 day Google index point. Please consider reviewing some of them!

Outreach and Invitations:

  • If you know other editors with a good understanding of Wikipedia policy, invite them to join NPP by dropping the invitation template on their talk page with: {{subst:NPR invite}}. Adding more qualified reviewers will help with keeping the backlog manageable.

New Year New Page Review Drive

  • A backlog drive is planned for the start of the year, beginning on January 1st and running until the end of the month. Unique prizes will be given in tiers for both the total number of reviews made, as well as the longest 'streak' maintained.
  • Note: quality reviewing is extremely important, please do not sacrifice quality for quantity.

General project update:

  • ACTRIAL has resulted in a significant increase in the quality of new submissions, with noticeably fewer CSD, PROD, and BLPPROD candidates in the new page feed. However, the majority of the backlog still dates back to before ACTRIAL started, so consider reviewing articles from the middle or back of the backlog.
  • The NPP Browser can help you quickly find articles with topics that you prefer to review from within the backlog.
  • To keep up with the latest conversation on New Pages Patrol or to ask questions, you can go to Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol/Reviewers and add it to your watchlist.

If you wish to opt-out of future mailings, go here. TonyBallioni (talk) 20:27, 12 December 2017 (UTC) [reply]

Weinstein effect

Dear FallingGravity: Re: Weinstein effect: Contary to a popular misconception in Wikipedia, I would argue that material sourced with a primary source does not always need a secondary source. The rule in Wikipedia is that articles should be based mainly on secondary sources. However, the use of primary sourcing is allowed for specific points in an article -- regardless of the presence or lack of a secondary source.

The preference for secondary source is due to the need to avoid prohibited original research (for example, taking statement A from Primary Source A and Statement B from Primary Source B and writing Conclusion C -- a conclusion not found in Sources A and B).

I would argue that the mere use of a primary source is not normally objectionable. Famspear (talk) 21:30, 29 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

PS: Here is the actual rule (bolding added):

Wikipedia articles should be based on reliable, published secondary sources and, to a lesser extent, on tertiary sources and primary sources. Secondary or tertiary sources are needed to establish the topic's notability and to avoid novel interpretations of primary sources. All analyses and interpretive or synthetic claims about primary sources must be referenced to a secondary or tertiary source, and must not be an original analysis of the primary-source material by Wikipedia editors.

The mere use of a primary source, in and of itself, is not an "analysis" or "interpretive or synthetic claim" about the primary source. The use of a primary source that does not constitute an "analysis" or "interpretive or synthetic claim" does not need to be "referenced to a secondary or tertiary source." Famspear (talk) 21:36, 29 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Famspear: I realize primary sources are acceptable in some cases. However, the text of the bill doesn't mention the Weinstein effect or #MeToo, so adding this to one of these articles seems like original research. However, it isn't that hard to find secondary sources that make this connection: [3][4] FallingGravity 00:36, 30 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

New Years new page backlog drive

Hello FallingGravity, thank you for your efforts reviewing new pages!

Announcing the NPP New Year Backlog Drive!

We have done amazing work so far in December to reduce the New Pages Feed backlog by over 3000 articles! Now is the time to capitalise on our momentum and help eliminate the backlog!

The backlog drive will begin on January 1st and run until January 29th. Prize tiers and other info can be found HERE.

Awards will be given in tiers in two categories:

  • The total number of reviews completed for the month.
  • The minimum weekly total maintained for all four weeks of the backlog drive.

NOTE: It is extremely important that we focus on quality reviewing. Despite our goal of reducing the backlog as much as possible, please do not rush while reviewing.


If you wish to opt-out of future mailings, go here.TonyBallioni (talk) 20:24, 30 December 2017 (UTC) [reply]

  1. ^ "Inconceivable" — YouTube