User talk:Clifford Smithe

Welcome and introduction

Hi, Clifford Smithe. This is NOT some automated message...it's from a real person. You can talk to me right now. Welcome to Wikipedia! I noticed you've just joined, and wanted to give you a few tips to get you started. If you have any questions, please talk to us. The tips below should help you to get started. Best of luck!  Chzz  ►  21:50, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

ようこそ You don't need to read anything - anybody can edit; just go to an article and edit it. Be Bold, but please don't put silly stuff in - it will be removed very quickly, and will annoy people. Ask for help. Talk to us live, or edit this page, put {{helpme}} and describe what help you need. Someone will reply very quickly - usually within a few minutes. Play in your user area. For example, create User:Clifford Smithe/test. Edit existing articles, before you make your own. Look at some subjects that you know about, and see if you can make them a bit better. For example, Wikipedia:Cleanup#2009. When you're ready, read about Your first article. It should be about something well-known, and it will need references. Good luck with editing; please drop me a line some time on my own talk page. There's lots of information below. Once again, welcome to the fantastic world of Wikipedia! --  Chzz  ►  21:50, 16 May 2010 (UTC) Getting started A tutorial • Our five pillars • Getting mentored How to: edit a page • upload and use images Frequently asked questions • Tips Where to ask questions or make comments Request administrator attention Policies and guidelines Neutral point of view • No original research Verifiability • Grade sources • Cite sources What Wikipedia is not • Biographies of living persons External links • Spam • Vandalism Deletion policy • Conflict of interest • Notability The community Signpost • IRC channels • Mailing lists • Best articles Build consensus • Resolve disputes Assume good faith • Civility • Etiquette No personal attacks • No legal threats Writing articles Be bold in editing • Develop an article The perfect article • Manual of style Pages needing attention • Peer review The missing manual

Re. our discussions

With reference to Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Sifu Tan Siew Cheng and my advice, I will put some links here to help you.

• WP:BIO - useful info about biographical articles
• WP:LINKING] - help with Wikilinks
• WP:CHEATSHEET - useful tips on formatting
• WP:EL - external linking policy

How references work

Simple references These require two parts; a) Chzz is 98 years old.<ref> "The book of Chzz", Aardvark Books, 2009. </ref> He likes tea. <ref> [http://www.nicecupofteaandasitdown.com Tea website] </ref> b) A section called "References" with the special code "{{reflist}}"; == References == {{reflist}} (an existing article is likely to already have one of these sections) To see the result of that, please look at user:chzz/demo/simpleref. Edit it, and check the code; perhaps make a test page of your own, such as user:Clifford Smithe/reftest and try it out. Named references Chzz was born in 1837, <ref name="MyBook"> "The book of Chzz", Aardvark Books, 2009. </ref> in Footown.<ref name="MyBook"/> Note that the second usage has a / (and no closing ref tag). This needs a reference section as above; please see user:chzz/demo/namedref to see the result. Citation templates You can put anything you like between <ref> and </ref>, but using citation templates makes for a neat, consistent look; Chzz has 37 Olympic medals. <ref> {{Citation | last = Smith | first = John | title = Olympic medal winners of the 20th century | publication-date = 2001 | publisher = [[Cambridge University Press]] | page = 125 | isbn = 0-521-37169-4 }} </ref> Please see user:chzz/demo/citeref to see the result. For more help and tips on that subject, see user:chzz/help/refs.

Hope this helps.

I will change the status of the page from 'reviewing' to 'on hold' for now, which gives time for you to work on things. There is no deadline - if, after a week, it is changed to 'declined' don't worry; you can still work on it, and ask for it to be re-checked at any time.

When you want to make further articles, you may wish to do so in your own userspace, and then either ask someone to check them and make them live, or - when you are confident enough - you can move them to the live area yourself. This is, instead of going through 'articles for creation' all the time.

You can make pages such as;

• User:Clifford Smithe/Something
• User:Clifford Smithe/Test one
• User:Clifford Smithe/Test one
• User:Clifford Smithe/Test one

...etc etc. You can click those red links and make those pages; you can work on things in your user area with no problems, try things out, ask for help, and they can be moved live. I made those links to non-existent pages by simply putting *[[User:Clifford Smithe/Test one]]. The asterisk (*) just makes bullet-points.

You might want to make such a list on your user page, User:Clifford Smithe - that way, you will always have a convenient way to access your subpages.

Best,  Chzz  ►  21:50, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

You have new messages

Hello, Clifford Smithe. You have new messages at Chzz's talk page.
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 Chzz  ►  13:00, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation.

Your nomination at Articles for Creation was a success, and Sifu Tan Siew Cheng was created.

• Please continue making quality contributions to Wikipedia. Note that because you are a logged-in user, you can create articles yourself, and don't have to post a request.
• If you would to help us improve this process, please consider

Thank you for helping Wikipedia!  Chzz  ►  13:47, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

@ Clifford Smithe: (Great article!) have you considered creating an article on Khong Chang? There doesn't seem to be one, yet, and it would be great if you knew (or could easily research) enough about the topic to create one. It sounds notable to me (as it's Singapore's indigenous martial arts system), and on a purely selfish level I'd love to know more about it...! Incidentally, I posted (on Talk:Sifu Tan Siew Cheng) a question about the article's title (but as I'll freely confess I know nothing do feel free to correct me!) Cheers, TFOWR^propaganda 14:03, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Hey Chzz, yes i have information on Kong Chang and am in the process of creating the citations. Many oriental martial artist used to have a sort of scroll which lists who taught them and some also have one for the "moves" they are taught. (sure you have seen karate kid at some point!) I have a few of these and think it would make another interesting article but will have to look around for more research. I had imagined creating articles would be tedious but it is actually pretty good fun! Clifford Smithe (talk) 08:18, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Nomination of Sifu Tan Siew Cheng for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Sifu Tan Siew Cheng is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sifu Tan Siew Cheng until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. Janggeom (talk) 14:22, 3 July 2011 (UTC)