Talk:Relapsing polychondritis

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Ideal sources for Wikipedia's health content are defined in the guideline Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources (medicine) and are typically review articles. Here are links to possibly useful sources of information about Relapsing polychondritis.

PubMed provides review articles from the past five years (limit to free review articles)
The TRIP database provides clinical publications about evidence-based medicine.
Other potential sources include: Centre for Reviews and Dissemination and CDC

Moved from "references"

The following were loose references in the "References" section:

Patel K (2010). "Relapsing polychondritis--delayed diagnosis and fatal outcome". Indian J Dermatol Venereol Leprol. 76 (1): 67–9. doi:10.4103/0378-6323.58688. PMID 20061740.{{cite journal}}: CS1 maint: unflagged free DOI (link)
"Polychondritis" Medscape. Web. 13 August 2014. <http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/331475-overview#a0104>
http://www.uptodate.com/contents/clinical-manifestations-of-relapsing-polychondritis

Moved here for reference. JFW | T@lk 23:23, 27 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Other sources

Currently much of the content hinges very much on a single source. Searching PubMed with "Relapsing polychondritis"[MAJR] and narrowing to "review" gives a couple of further useful sources:

PMID 24051104 (Autoimmun Rev) - more on the pathogenesis and likely epitopes of autoimmune process
PMID 23887438 (Clin Rheumatol)
PMID 22771427 (Autoimm Rev) - development of a disease activity score
PMID 22071463 (Semin Arthritis Rheum) - role of biologics

Incorporation of these sources is likely to enhance the article further. JFW | T@lk 23:23, 27 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah thanks :-) I started updating this page a couple of weeks ago. I really want more refs in it, so this is usefull thanks! The symptoms bottom section (with the *) I will change, I think it can really be better. Btw, I agree on the 'brain frog' I didn't really like it, don't know who added it. Once I am done with the text I will add some pictures. I have a few from actual RP patients. EllenvanderVeen (talk) 12:04, 28 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Request for histological pictures

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Thanks EllenvanderVeen (talk) 13:35, 28 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

We could ask here and here if they would be willing to donate these images under a CC BY SA license. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 23:24, 4 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

They here may be willing aswell [1] [2] Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 23:27, 4 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Eye section moved

I moved the current eye section to talk and I am adding a whole new subtopic to it. I have trouble with the 65%, because a lot of review articles say 60%. So that is why I moved it here.

Eyes: About 20% of people have eye involvement at diagnosis and eventually about 65% will develop episcleritis or scleritis, inflammation of the sclera of the eye.^[1]

EllenvanderVeen (talk) 21:39, 3 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Section Moved from MED talk page about history of RP

In order for not to get the information lost, I copy and paste this directly from the MED Talk page:

Need some help with opening a few articles

Hey guys, I want to add a section about the history of Relapsing polychondritis but I can not open the oldest articles about this on Pubmed. Can anyone have a look and send them to me by wikipedia or e-mail me at

The articles I am looking for:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14431246
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/13981402
And the oldest one from 1923: Jaksch-Wartenhorst R. Polychondropathia. Wien Arch F Inn Med. 1923;6:93-100

If you have any other idea about this, that would be welcome also Thank you very much! EllenvanderVeen (talk) 19:29, 4 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

We should try to use recent reviews that discuss the history of the condition rather than try to interpret really old articles ourselves. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 19:58, 4 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I agree on that actually, unforturnally I have searched hours and hours for it and only found secondary news articles about it. like this one: http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/331475-overview Or a little older from the 60's like this one: http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=1177828 So I thought that the best thing I could do is look at those articles and see if the secondary articles are right. I don't know, what do you think I should do? EllenvanderVeen (talk) 20:48, 4 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I tried too,(do what Doc James says get recent reviews)--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 21:00, 4 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Some brief historical notes here (and here^{[no Google preview]}). Another fairly recent reliable source is PMID 12077711 – it should contain historical information based on a review of the literature, but unfortunately it's paywalled. 86.181.67.166 (talk) 22:11, 4 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Textbooks via google books are often useful for this. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 22:24, 4 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Here we are [3][4][5] and there are more. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 22:28, 4 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Oh thanks guys, yes I will have a look at these links. I will also look in the Uni library next to my house, didn't even think of that, sure there are some books about it. Thx for the good criticism, I appreciate it! EllenvanderVeen (talk) 22:30, 4 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"History" sections I find some of the hardest to write. Most reviews do not touch on them at all. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 22:45, 4 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sometimes there are snippets of history mentioned in reviews. I usually provide citations for the original descriptions, in a subtle way of honouring the folks who stood at the cradle of modern medicine. JFW | T@lk 00:13, 5 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah it is a bit of a challenge isn't it? But I am determined to make a good start on it.EllenvanderVeen (talk) 10:23, 5 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ok well I just updated the history part of it. I have a lot more information about it, but I don't think it should be too much. Hope you guys like it. EllenvanderVeen (talk) 16:05, 2 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Other things to add in history if someone has time to look at it (and to make sure I don't forget):

First time when Biological agents where used in treatment for this disease.
First time when Stem cell transplantation is used in this disease. And first time this was succesfull?
Some original references on here: http://www.whonamedit.com/synd.cfm/1695.html

Any more ideas, please add :-) EllenvanderVeen (talk) 10:56, 3 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Respiratory picture

Would love to have picture 3 in this article on the page. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=Relapsing+polychondritis%3A+prevalence+of+expiratory+CT+airway+abnormalities.

But I think I need to ask for permission here? http://www2.rsna.org/rsnarights/

I have to ask if it falls under these conditions? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Non-free_content#Meeting_the_previous_publication_criterion

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Non-free_use_rationale_guideline

EllenvanderVeen (talk) 19:07, 2 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Image

Not sure why this was removed? Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 12:33, 29 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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