Talk:Military conquests of Umar's era

Shi'a view:

“ Umar's generals had conquered Persia, Syria and Egypt. His successors in the Umayyad dynasty pushed those conquests as far as southern France in the west, and the western frontiers of China and the Indus valley in the east. The students of history have expressed amazement at the speed and the extent of the conquests of the Arabs in the seventh/eighth centuries. They achieved all those conquests within 100 years – truly one of the most remarkable series of conquests in world history.

Many centuries later, the search goes on for the answer to the question: How did the Arabs conquer so much so soon? Many reasons have been given by the historians for the success of the Arab arms, among them: civil war and anarchy in Persia; a war between Persia and Rome that lasted for 26 years, and which left both empires utterly exhausted, bleeding and prostrate; the disgruntlement of the Roman subjects in Syria and Egypt who welcomed the Arabs as liberators, and the loss to Rome of the "umbrella" of local support; the dependence both of the Persians and the Romans upon mercenaries and conscripts who lacked morale; persecution on grounds of religion of dissident sects and creeds by both the Persians and the Romans; and the enormous burden of taxes that the alien races ruled by Persia and Rome, and the peasants in both empires, had to carry. Also, the Persians and the Romans were handicapped by heavy baggage, and they lacked mobility. The Arabs, on the other hands, were highly mobile. They could strike at a target of their choice, and then retreat into the desert on their swift camels where the enemy cavalry could not enter as it did not have logistical support.

In their campaigns, the Arabs were invariably outnumbered by their enemies but this was not necessarily a handicap for them. History abounds in examples of small forces of volunteers standing up to and defeating large conscript armies.

But the Muslims themselves, discount most of these reasons for their success. According to many of them, the secret of their success was in the piety and the religious zeal of the Muslim soldiers. The propulsive power behind the Arab conquests of the seventh century, they say, came from Islam, and every Arab who left the peninsula to attack the Fertile Crescent, was a mujahid or a holy warrior, fighting for the glory of God.

This claim, however, is only partly true. Without a doubt there were those Muslims who wished to spread the light of Islam in the world but also there were others, and they were the overwhelming majority, who fought for the material rewards that the conquests promised to bring to them. They had developed a distinctly secular appetite for power and riches. [1]

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--Striver 02:30, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Tag & Assess 2008

Article reassessed and graded as start class. --dashiellx (talk) 19:21, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Views

i thiknk ,ost of this Views are not related on this article! i dont know why some people trying to bring every where Ali and the things omar did to him, nonsense, --82.7.213.69 (talk) 17:36, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

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i have removed the views section, its a military article and shia sunni views are irrelevant. الله أكبرMohammad Adil 18:17, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

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Reference named "Butler":

• From Muslim conquest of Egypt: Butler 1902
• From Siege of Alexandria (641): Alfred J. Butler (1978). The Arab Conquest of Egypt And the Last Thirty Years of the Roman Dominion (PDF). Oxford University Press. pp. 311–330. ISBN 0-19-821678-5.

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Reference named "The Conquest of Iraq, Southwestern Persia, and Egypt":

• From Qays ibn Makshuh: Tabari, Ibn Jarir (1989). K. A. Howard, I. (ed.). The Conquest of Iraq, Southwestern Persia, and Egypt (hardcover). SUNY Press. pp. 40–42.
• From Amr ibn Ma'adi Yakrib: Tabari, Ibn Jarir (1989). K. A. Howard, I. (ed.). The Conquest of Iraq, Southwestern Persia, and Egypt (hardcover). SUNY Press. pp. 40–42. ISBN 9780887068768.

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Reference named "Siyar a'lam Nubala":

• From Al-Bara' ibn Malik: ad-Dhahabi, Shams ad Din. "Siyar a'lam Nubala" (in Arabic). AL-Islam. Retrieved 11 December 2021.
• From Muhammad ibn Maslamah: ad-Dhahabi, Shams ad-Din. "Siyar A'lam Nubala". Retrieved 27 November 2021.
• From Ubadah ibn al-Samit: al-Asqalani, Ibn Hajar. "Siyar a'lam Nubala/'Ubadah bin al-Samit". Wikisource. Retrieved 30 January 2020.

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Reference named "Crone":

• From Rashidun army: Patricia Crone, Encyclopedia of the Qur'an, War article, p.456. Brill Publishers
• From Siege of Emesa: Crone, Patricia (1980). Slaves on Horses: The Evolution of the Islamic Polity. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. ISBN 0-521-52940-9.

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