Talk:Karen (slang)

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Have we gone overkill with the Meme?

The name Karen means pure and was derived from the name Katherine. The Hebrew meaning of Karen is ray, horn, and antler. In French the name can mean 'clear'. People have forgotten that the name Karen was once a name that was respected and loved by many. It used to be in the top 10 baby names from the 1940s to 1960s. When you look up what the meaning of the name Karen is you do not find pure first, you find, " A white women perceived as entitled or demanding beyond the scope of what is normal," This is directly from this wiki itself. I personally know people with the name Karen and they have received death threats telling them that they will come and kill them. They also have worked at places where people will learn their name and make comments on it or make fun of the name. This may have started of as a funny name to use but now it is unkind and has seemed to have lost its true meaning witch was one of great meaning. Why don't we just call bad people what they are 'bad people'. 47.160.106.19 (talk) 01:59, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. Also, the socially-sanctioned corporate abuse of this name in board games, movies, coffee shops, wrapping paper, tee shirts, dolls, etc. all telling people with this name to shut up should silence the "whataboutism" of anyone with another name that's been used in an unflattering way here or there since this name abuse has been so beyond anything else in scope in our history. At this point, it's being used to silence women by threatening to stigmatize them. Some people should be stigmatized, but for their behavior and not their name. To argue otherwise is the equivalent of saying "All ___ people don't mind my [extremely offensive] use of their identity to categorize someone since they know this isn't about THEM." It really doesn't hold up as an argument. Those with the name Karen describe feeling like society hates them and they're running around with a "kick me" sign when people behave rudely upon learning their names. It's time to put this slang to bed along with blonde jokes, "welfare queen" comments, Polish jokes, homosexual jokes, etc. and recognize that respecting identity includes respecting someone's birth name and not making it into a nasty way to refer to behavior you don't like. Anyone who thinks it's not a big deal should ask someone 5-20 named Karen and hear how their experiences have been. Shelbybaxter (talk) 06:33, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Good luck trying to change society from here. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 17:45, 23 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Wish we could as its just sad to see a name that was once respected be turned into an insult. 47.160.106.19 (talk) 00:57, 25 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
These things happen. Why do you think boys aren't named "Elmer" anymore? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 01:12, 25 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Because it was never a good name. 47.138.92.123 (talk) 04:38, 27 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Says who? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 04:11, 28 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Says me. 65.248.13.32 (talk) 18:46, 15 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Says your personal OR. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 09:07, 16 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
LOL. Shove your OR up your smarmy ass Bugggs. 65.248.13.32 (talk) 19:08, 20 June 2023 (UTC) [reply]
Elmers not a bad name. I had a neighbor named Elmer and he was great. Yes it is seen as old fashioned but it’s still very lovely. 47.160.106.19 (talk) 03:18, 28 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
You mean like the name "Gaylord"?
2600:4040:750C:6F00:7CA8:F9B2:B0FD:E579 (talk) 13:29, 3 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
“It used to be in the top 10 baby names from the 1940s to 1960s”
how Ironic that baby-boomers, the worst generation, would have an abundance of Karens. 196.128.21.19 (talk) 22:18, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki Education assignment: Race, Law, and Politics

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 17 January 2024 and 10 May 2024. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Mriacona (article contribs).

— Assignment last updated by Mriacona (talk) 17:45, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What "Karen" actually means

What a pathetic load of garbage propaganda this article is. It actually has "sources" from the BBC and Insider who are left-wing and have not got a clue on what a meme is, nor any clue of what happens on the Internet, and the former of which is well-renowned for making up rubbish and telling lies. "Karen" used generally for entitled women in general. They don't need to be American, or light-skinned, or blonde or short-haired. Even the term "Daren" and "Kevin" are used for male Karens. The Internet must push back. Mikey'Da'Man, Archangel (talk) 17:49, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And what reliable sources do you have for this? EvergreenFir (talk) 17:50, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Mikey, you appear to be saying above that the BBC "is well-renowned for making up rubbish and telling lies". If this were so, it would be surprising that en:Wikipedia says that, for editing purposes, the BBC "is considered generally reliable". If you can provide evidence for the BBC's renown for making up rubbish and telling lies, then please do so at WP:RSN and get agreement for your low opinion of the BBC. If you either cannot do this persuasively or can't be bothered to do so, then accept that the BBC is, with good reason, considered generally reliable. -- Hoary (talk) 23:45, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 13 May 2024

In regards to Citibike Karen. The teen boy’s family raised $103,235 via GoFundMe. The $65 amount is incorrect in this wiki. 71.95.40.115 (talk) 14:46, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have a WP:RS? Babysharkboss2 was here!! I killed JFK 15:01, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Done The source seems to say $65,000, not $65. I've made that change. Valereee (talk) 19:32, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Race

I have seen it mention many times that the definition of a karen is 'white' and 'middle class', but I think that this is incorrect. There have been countless of hours of karens on all kinds of social media showing that this is universal behaviour, not related to [perceived] race, [standing], or education level, and I would support a move to reclassify 'karen' as " a woman but not exclusively so, who exhibits a pattern of entitled, demanding, and often confrontational behavior in various social situations, particularly when interacting with service providers or authority figures. This behavior is characterized by a sense of superiority, entitlement to special treatment, and a tendency to escalate minor issues into conflicts. Karens are known for asserting their perceived rights aggressively, often disregarding the perspectives or needs of others and displaying a lack of empathy or self-awareness. Their behavior may include making unreasonable demands, insisting on speaking to managers or supervisors, and attempting to exert control over situations in which they feel dissatisfied or inconvenienced." Aethalides (talk) 15:09, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have sourves for that definition? Dimadick (talk) 13:35, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]